Again, I encourage you to have a look at the Apple II lineage. With each generation of Apple II, the engineers were able to consolidate more discreet components into LSI/VLSI chips. It went something like: Apple II Apple II+ Apple IIe Apple IIc Apple IIe Platinum Apple IIe Card Apple IIgs The "card" plugged into a Macintosh computer. It contain a chip which was an entire Apple IIe computer and disk controller reduced to one integrated circuit. Each generation reduced more discreet components to integrated circuits. Each one added some new hardware features over its predecessors. Every computer in that list still kept about 90% backward compatibility with the original Apple II. At what point did this family tree no longer produce Apple II computers? That's exactly what were doing here with Jeri's project you see. We (well, Jeri really) are integrating discreet components and adding advanced hardware features. By the way, your definition excludes the C-128 from the C-64 family because the C-64 motherboard and keyboard are not present. The C-128 actually uses hardware logic to emulate the C-64 environment. It's all done within the MMU. The only chips shared by the two different computers are the CIAs (and possibly the SID although that changed in the C-64 too) --- Miika Seppanen <miika.seppanen@saunalahti.fi> wrote: > As long as the original mainboard (and maybe the > keyboard, though this is > not an issue) is in use, doing more than being just > a keyboard. Especially > if the machine is expanded with original expansion > ports (by the means that > are provided without modificating the mainboard) I > see no reason, why that > mighty little thing couldn't be called a C64. This > Jeri board is not really > like that, but it seems to be so cool that I'd still > call a C64 equipped > with that a real thing. ;-) ===== Get a FREE 6Mb webmail box from go6502! - http://www.geocities.com/profdredd As low as 2.99% Intro APR from NextCard! - http://www.nextcard.com/index6.html?ref=aff0074521 PayPal is the FAST FREE and SECURE way to send money! - https://secure.paypal.x.com/refer/pal=profdredd%40yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail cbm-hackers-request@dot.tml.hut.fi.
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