Re: Searching for any available 6530 ROM contents

From: Wolfgang Moser <womo_at_news.trikaliotis.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:11:33 +0200
Message-ID: <j2eip2$jav$1@vs5413.trikaliotis.net>
Hello Martin,

Hoffmann-Vetter, Martin schrieb:
>> I don't want to open up other such speculations but I would expect
>> that both chips (-01 and -02) are the same DOS version, but different
>> revisions. Basically both being DOS 1.0, but the -02 with a bugfix.
> 
> Are you sure? The most sources write only dos 1 (without the dot zero) not
> DOS 1.0. At http://www.6502.org/users/andre/petindex/drives/roms/index.html
> andre write about the first useable dos is DOS 1.2. So is think 901466-02
> must be DOS 1.2. But what's about the 901466-01 and DOS 1.0?

it seems you are right and your explanation sounds reasonable.


And in fact, Jim Brain's "Canonical List of Commodore Computer
Equipment", Version 2.0, printed in C=hacking Issue #15, from April
1998, mentions at least two 2040 disk drives with two different DOS
versions, 1.0 and 1.2.

	* CBM 2040      Dual 5.25" 170K, DOS1.0, Off-White, No Rel Files,
IEEE-488. GP
	* CBM 2040      Dual 5.25" 170K, DOS1.2, Off-White, No Rel Files,
IEEE-488. GP

http://www.ffd2.com/fridge/chacking/c=hacking15.txt


On the other side there are references to and citations from printed
material that mention a "DOS 1.0" in relation to the 901466-02 chip code:

	http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/firmware/README.txt

See also the TOC entry: " DOS 1.0 Bug Notes (2040)"

> We talk about the FDC rom. You can change the dos for some modification
> without changing the FDC rom. It's only 1kB! Okay, if there is an error it
> must be corrected. But was there errors in the fdc from dos 1?

I see some references that people back in the past wrote up articles
about all the bugs, but I can't find the referenced articles/boot in
electronic form.

>>> At home i
>>> have a 901466-02 chip, but that can't be read out in dos1.
>>
>> This is interesting. Once I read a posting from Anders Carlsson over
>> here where he also told that DOS1 cannot be read out with the well
>> known method from William/Olaf/Marko.
> 
> That's a goog question. I remember that some commands are missing. But if i
> look at the disassembly (see above) all you need is into dos 1. If a have
> time, i try it with the vice emulator.

At least Andrč mentioned that he wrote a tool that would be capable to
read out even DOS 1 FDC ROMs (from the RRIOT chip).

>> Do you know why this is so? Does this unability belong to executing
>> job codes (let the DC execute a memory page copy routine)? Or has it
>> something to do with the BC? I would like to try to find a solution
>> for this within my version of the ROM copy tool.
> 
> That's a good idea.

If Andrč's tools doesn't work, we might go further and try to find a
solution based on my routine. This will work in the end, I'm sure.

>>> I've build an
>>> adapter to read it as an eprom, but i forgot to clock phi2. So i try
>>> it at a later time. Or has anyone readout the 901466-02 or -01?
>>
>> That would be really great and I don't think that evereone else did it
>> yet. The Zimmer's archive doesn't it now as well as other places.
> 
> Yes, i've posted last night, i want to try with a shift of the addess lines.
> And so Phi2 can be connected to A0. With this clock signal i hope to readout
> the 6530.
> 
>> I'm willing to extend and/or fix my dumping tool to your local needs
>> (to make extracting feasible, not fulfilling all your wishes ;-) as
>> long as there is a chance to get a copy of the extracted image file.
> 
> At this time, i only have the chip 6530. I found it near some other
> commodore chips. So i don't have a working 4040 (or 2040) with dos 1 roms.

I see, so you hopefully get it don't with your phi2 emulation ;-)


Womo

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