Ooops Steve, Levente> - We're so stupid, but we expect the HDD a lot of 1541 compatible Levente> features. Levente> Levente> - No surprise, the 1541's own filesystem is too small, simply unable to Levente> use as main filesystem for a HDD. The useability of the HDD and it's Levente> filesystem is much more serious than the need to be compatible with the Levente> 1541. > Steve>I'm still a bit unclear on the purpose of this scheme. While I certainly Steve>appreciate the technical merits, my question relates to the practical uses Steve>of the scheme. So, let's say that after a long development time it works Steve>100% perfectly: > Steve>1) Who is going to use it? Steve>2) What are they going to use it for? That was an interesting question ... Levente> - The solution is, to use regular disk images. How, and why to do this? > Steve>What kind of software are we talking about here? Games are all I can think Steve>of that need a disk image. > Steve>1) What advantage is gained over just using a floppy? Dunno. Same speed. Same capacity (inside images). Compatibility under question. Worth? Except you hear not a floppy noise but a HDD rotating sweep :-) What about an alternative? Backup quickly disk image from HDD into floppy (GCR too) at 10-25 secs and use real 1541 for play it. Only one or two floppy disk needed for all prgs. Steve>2) What percentage of non-emulator users are dedicated gamers? Also an interesting question. Steve>For what it's worth, CMD devices rather let you format different partitions Steve>in different ways (1541, 1581, native mode, etc.). So it's similar to what Steve>you describe, but uses "CP" instead of "CD" (and of course uses a physical Steve>partition instead of a disk image). CMD devs little overpriced I think for this purpose. I cannot live with the following things: buy CMD 40 Megabyte HDD for $269 buy CMD 1750 512K REU for $99 buy CMD FD-2000 (800K and 1.6 MB) for $179 JiffyDOS C64/SX-64 System $39 JiffyDOS CMD HDD $19 JiffyDOS CMD FDD $19 -------------------------------------------- All for $624 Just imagine you expanded only C64 with today minimum memory, floppy and hdd. Another calculation: buy used PC, maybe a 286/386 or 486sx with 2-4 meg RAM, 1.44 floppy and 200 meg HDD for $150 (or less?). Oh I forgot, you hopefully get a monitor in this price. All hardware in that PC are much better comparable with the CMD configuration (okey they're used, but for $624 I suppose something better also possible :-) What the user need connect that PC with C64 and use the PC's resources. Some programming challenge and little hardware. What else are necessary for today's C= user? And most of us already have PC around C64. Levente> - When speaking of disk images, one thinks 1541 is good but there are a Levente> lot of other floppy drives too, all with the appropriate image formats. Levente> What about these? > Steve>Hmmm, which drives are you referring to? I think partition types accepted by CMD (1541, 1571, 1581) are really enough. Steve>the 64 which are effectively useless, or at least not used. This in general Steve>happens because they are either too difficult to use, too specialized, Steve>or address problems which simply aren't of much concern on the 64. And that's the main problem with all complicated things. Steve>I find that while there's great personal satisfaction in writing a program, Steve>it's an awful lot nicer if the program actually gets used by others Great words. Merry XMAS for all C= hackers, Frank - This message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail email@example.com.
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