On Wed, 2 May 2001, Professor Dredd wrote: > Your friend is correct, the C-64 is now a Super-CPU > equipped C-64. But you are incorrect if you think it > is not at all a C-64 anymore. > > What do you think makes it a C-64? Is it the > microprocessor? Is it the I/O chips? Is it the version > of Micro$oft BASIC that it runs? Is it the plastic > case or the keyboard? Is it the software that it runs? > > Take a look at the differences between the Apple IIgs > and the original Apple II. They managed to add all > kinds of cool new features including acceeleration, > enhanced graphics and built-in I/O ports and STILL > maintain 99% software backward-compatibility with the > original Apple II. It's not hard to get 99% compatibility witht he apple II. There's nothing to it ;) The original apple ][+ has 24 ICs, and most of them were RAM chips. The others were the cpu, a few roms, and the video logic, all of which ewas made from discrete logic. The I/O decoding was even impressively simple. And it all fit on a neat little IC in the IIgs, wich also handles super I/O decoding now. > > As part of the package, they provided developers with > a new, 16-bit OS on which to build more powerful > applications. Was it still an Apple II? Many asked > this question, but in the end, Apple II loyalists > agree that the IIgs was a great machine. GS/OS is a very good design. I think someone should make a similar function library for the c-64. GS/OS patches into the NMI line, and provides monitor and/or control panel services at any time from any program. Its capable of dealing with whatever graphics mode you're in, and returning cleanly to it in the end. For what its worth, Apple II loyalists belive that the IIgs is still, in fact, a great machine today. I have one myself, and cant wait till my c64's graphics and sound catch up. > > --- Miika Seppanen <email@example.com> > wrote: > > >I like that idea. All the C-64 motherboards (20 + > > >million or so) will eventually be dead anyway. We > > >might as well replace them if we have the > > opportunity. > > > > Sure this is a good point, but... > > > > >I won't be satisfied until I can connect my > > >cable-modem to my Super-64 and browse the web with > > >full graphics :) > > > > > ...would the result be a C64, or even a Commodore > > any more at all? ;-) > > > > (This just came to my mind, since I'm just having a > > debate with my friend > > about speeding up a C64. For his opinion, a C64 > > equipped with a SuperCPU is > > not a C64 any more.) > > > > -Miika > > > > - > > This message was sent through the cbm-hackers > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail > firstname.lastname@example.org. > > > ===== > Get a FREE 6Mb webmail box from go6502! - http://www.geocities.com/profdredd > > As low as 2.99% Intro APR from NextCard! - http://www.nextcard.com/index6.html?ref=aff0074521 > > PayPal is the FAST FREE and SECURE way to send money! - https://secure.paypal.x.com/refer/pal=profdredd%40yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > - > This message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list. > To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail email@example.com. > - This message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail firstname.lastname@example.org.
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