Re: PET keyboards and related ROM sets

YES! thanks, this is the type of info i was looking for :)


Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020, 02:56:26 CEST schrieb Steve Gray:
>  There is a link to a picture of all the keyboards I know of just before the
> table in the keyboard section. You need to follow the link to my github
> page and look at the keyboard ASM file for row/column/petscii values:
> https://github.com/sjgray/cbm-edit-rom/blob/master/keyboard-tables1.asm
> Steve
> 
> 
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> 
>     On Monday, May 11, 2020, 07:15:32 p.m. EDT, groepaz_at_gmx.net
> <groepaz_at_gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>  that confuses me even more =) all matrix info i can find is http://www.
> 6502.org/users/sjgray/projects/editrom/n-vs-b-keyboards.png ... which doesnt
> really tell much regarding the differences between the various "business"
> layouts :) (it should probably also contain row/column numbering and mark
> the keypad keys as such) ... the one in that picture, is that the US or UK
> one?
> Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020, 00:43:53 CEST schrieb Steve Gray:
> > I have keyboard pictures and matrix info on my editor rom project page:
> > http://www.6502.org/users/sjgray/projects/editrom/index.html
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > > On May 11, 2020, at 6:09 PM, groepaz_at_gmx.net wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hy!
> > > 
> > > In the past couple days i have played around with fixing some things in
> > > VICE that are related to the PET keyboard... in particular i tried to
> > > create a somewhat working keymap :)
> > > 
> > > anyway, it's still a bit confusing to me, so please read the following
> > > and
> > > correct whats wrong:
> > > 
> > > - there are basically two fundamentally different PET keyboards:
> > > 1) the "graphics" keyboard, which is used on the "small" models, up to
> > > 4032
> > > 2) the "business" keyboard, which is used on the "big" models, 8032 and
> > > up
> > > (this refers to the keyboard matrix, "graphics" keyboard includes the
> > > very
> > > first, top one on this picture: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SPbnwFP9n5o/
> > > XlI9s0Xoo5I/AAAAAAAATw4/XfTKMTKa_8s2inLFD3EFaefeWjvcVznSwCLcBGAsYHQ/s160
> > > 0/
> > > Keyboards.JPG )
> > > 
> > > now, the "business" keyboard exists in several localized versions. for
> > > those you will need "editor" ROMs that match the respective keyboard
> > > variant.
> > > 
> > > now the confusion (and my questions) begins :)
> > > - what about charsets? will you need other chargen ROM too? (my guess is
> > > yes, of course)
> > > - where can i find detail info on the matrix values of the localized
> > > keys?
> > > all i found so far is
> > > http://www.6502.org/users/andre/petindex/keyboards.html - where can i
> > > find the actual ROMs? i found "some" on zimmers.net: http://
> > > www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/firmware/computers/pet/index.html but
> > > this does not look complete, or the info on what is what is missing. i
> > > would atleast like to see the right ROMs for the "US", german and
> > > japanese keyboards ... but anything else will be fine of course
> > > 
> > > please fill in the gaps :)
> > > 
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> > > it
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