Re: "Commodore" brand

From: John Herron <barythrin_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:50:19 -0600
Message-ID: <CAEOGs+hfkqOAr5uDvGW=GhZfMbEve8NrXU_otsZFMG+exQAXcA_at_mail.gmail.com>
Interesting and valid story. I personally thought the issue is that the
rights and different copyrights aren't globally the same. I thought this
was part of the reason the commodore phone and the new c64 mini are
available outside of the USA and eventually trickle in. Claonto definitely
likes to say they own the rights but i thought that was only ROMs and maybe
Amiga although recently I know they've released commodore stuff as well.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:01 AM Bill Degnan <billdegnan_at_gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Cloanto _CLAIMS_ to own the copyrights. So far they could not prove
>> anything.
>> They are also inconsistent in what they do - just check what stuff they
>> registered at the US copyright office (includes amiga things, 1541 roms,
>> but
>> NOT c64 roms. strange?) they'll happily sell you a license for whatever
>> rom,
>> of course :)
>>
>> > This Italian CBM has the brand rights, which IMHO means the logo.
>> Therefore
>> > they can use the chicken head.
>>
>> those italian guys are scammers (chinese phones with cbm logo). they
>> registered the brand already once some years ago, and then it was deleted
>> because polabe went over them. apparently they did they same again now,
>> polabe
>> is already on it. not how they dont actually use the chickenhead logo,
>> its
>> something similar with CBM under it - just different enough to the
>> original to
>> fool the autodetection at the trademark office.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>
> When I made the Commodore poster in 2006 (
> vintagecomputer.net/poster_detail.cfm)...I dealt with the then current
> owners of the Commodore logo.    I ended up just removing the logo entirely
> from the bottom left of the poster.  At the top however I created a header
> reminiscent of the Commodore logo by writing the words "Commodore" in 1541
> disk drive format colored bars to get around the copyright issues
> entirely.  Anyone who sees it knows exactly what it signifies (vs.
> Commodore cars).  In fact I ended up getting the owners of the Commodore
> brand to send me a letter that said I had the right to produce the poster
> in exchange for 20 posters to sell at CBIT 2007.  Not a very high bar, and
> shows what being a nice guy can get you.
>
> Bill Degnan
> kennettclassic.com
>
Received on 2020-05-30 01:00:33

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