> On 2018-03-15, at 10:40, smf <smf@null.net> wrote: > >>> Isn't this ultimate thing the real thing? >> Depends how you look at it. For me it is. For smf it isn't. :-) > > No matter how I look at it > > https://ultimate64.com/Ultimate-64 > > doesn't look anything like > > http://www.mos6502.com/images/C64Internal/C64i_large.jpg Yes, but when I look at: http://e4aws.silverdr.com/resources/romrep/250469a.jpg it doesn't look like http://www.mos6502.com/images/C64Internal/C64i_large.jpg either. And... > On 2018-03-15, at 10:26, smf <smf@null.net> wrote: > > There is a difference between Vice and an ultimate (and for completeness chameleon), however they are all emulating a c64. ... IMHO all the narrow boards, including the above 250469 do the same, and sometimes poorly. They are emulating the real C64 with their "improperly" sounding SID and "sparking" CMOS VIC (plus others, less outside noticeable differences), trying poorly to emulate the real 6581/6569 respectively. Yes, "ultimate" is a big step further in terms of "reimplementation" (as opposed to "emulation"), but - hey - wouldn't it be the natural way to go further if - say - CBM lived and kept selling C64s today? Hmm... I guess they wouldn't be able to afford to invest so much of the R&D as Gideon did so maybe no, in fact :-)) -- SD!Received on 2018-03-15 14:03:28
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