Re: strange 2001N fault

From: Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:34:41 +0100
Message-ID: <2b58e343-0de6-685e-5e9b-c9ba5a953723@laosinh.s.bawue.de>
On 02/20/2018 10:49 PM, Mia Magnusson wrote:
> 
> I haven't much experience with DRAMs but from what I've read you'd
> really need a 500MHz oscilloscope or similar to be able to really see
> all kinds of glitches, so with a more common slower oscilloscope you
> are a bit blind.

You can see a lot with normal scope since the system clock is only 1 MHz.


> Also if there is something suspicious with dram refresh, the ram would
> (afaik/iirc) anyway partially get refreshed by normal reads. Basic and
> Kernal uses a bunch of addresses <1024 (zero page, stack and other
> stuff) which could mean that most but not all of the 128 different
> combinations of A0-A6 gets read at some point either in the loops
> running while idle or running a basic program and in the interrupt
> handlers.

The question is, if the 6502 is running a program in ROM, will the logic 
generate RAS-cycles?  If yes, that would provide refresh, if not the 
DRAM would depend on the refresh counter as long as the CPU is using the 
ROM.


> P.S. Isn't chop mode of an analogue oscilloscope far too slow for this?

Depends on the scope... My Hitachi V-1050F will go very high in chop 
mode. With a DSO you no longer have that problem anyway.

  Gerrit


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