On 2/14/2017 10:02 AM, Francesco Messineo wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Jim Brain <email@example.com> wrote: > >> I envy folks like Steve. I didn't know either of the apps in 2004 but >> learned EAGLE as it seemed the best choice at the time. Now, I've gotten >> very adept at the tool, but the tool has fallen somewhat out of favor. I've >> attempted to migrate, but I am simply too efficient in EAGLE, and it's hard >> to justify using limited hobby time to learn a new tool when I can >> immediately deliver something with EAGLE. Thus, if you are just learning >> PCB CAD apps, I think learning KiCAD is a better choice. When KiCAD >> supports back annotations, I'll try once again to migrate. > what do you mean? It does support back annotations if we are speaking > of the same thing. EAGLE supports auto back annotations (if you change the name or technology of a component in the PCB view, it updates in the schematic view. If you move a wire in the schematic view, it auto-updates in the PCB view. I use this feature extensively to route CPLDs, having both views on dual monitors at once and watching how the CPLD pin placement affects possible routing options. > I migrated from gEDA to KiCAD in a week btw, and all eagle libraries > can be converted to KiCAD (I have a huge collection of such libraries, > downloaded from somewhere) but I often prefer to make my own as I need > them, since anyway it is often the best practice to check all > dimensions, pinouts and so on before sending files to PCB farm. > I think eagle libraries are tested and perfect, but why would I risk? If we were in the same vicinity, I would be happy to challenge you to a "CAD-off" :-) We can probably lay out the major footprints and placement in the same timeframe, but I know all the shortcuts in the tool to make tweaking of the design a breeze. I both have less understanding of the KiCAD tool and also know that some of the shortcuts I use all the time are not in KiCAD at present. However, regardless of tool, I agree with your assessment that using pre-built libs is a crap shoot. On the other hand, who wants to spend all evening making footprints? In this age of $20.00 for 5 prototype boards, it's often worth the risk to do a spot check and roll the dice. Jim > > Frank > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list -- Jim Brain firstname.lastname@example.org www.jbrain.com Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing listReceived on 2017-02-14 18:02:14
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