Re: 'Frankenstein' Disk Drives, Done Cheap

From: Groepaz <groepaz_at_gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:47:57 +0200
Message-Id: <201404252147.57542.groepaz@gmx.net>
On Friday 25 April 2014, you wrote:
> On 04/24/2014 10:51 PM, Groepaz wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 April 2014, you wrote:
> >> On 04/24/2014 02:06 PM, David Wood wrote:
> >>> http://oms.wmhost.com/misc/C64C_VSP-fix_theory.png seems to be the
> >>> trick.  I was linked this via IRC.  It doesn't actively search for the
> >>> party, but instead latches the DRAM address before the VicII has a
> >>> chance to change its mind.
> >> 
> >> I see what it does... If I understand it right that trick will only work
> >> since _CAS on the C64 has to go through the PLA. If _CAS were directly
> >> connected to the DRAMs, it would fail since the additional delay of the
> >> 74xx86 and the 74xx573 would cause the DRAMs to miss their column
> >> address.
> >> 
> >> Did someone figure out what exactly happens inside VIC when this problem
> >> surfaces?
> > 
> > according to jens schönfeld its a setup-and-hold timing violation.
> 
> Yes, but why? The CPU was done with its part of the cycle a few hundred
> nanoseconds before this problem happens. What can the CPU do to VIC
> there that will only surface that much later?
> 
> I would expect that no matter what the CPU does, everything inside VIC
> had stabilized by then.

dunno, ask jens :) its all mad wizardry to me =)

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