Re: XRAM notes

From: silverdr_at_wfmh.org.pl
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:55:35 +0100
Message-ID: <etPan.531ef9b7.12200854.1092@szaman.lan>
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From: Clockmeister
>  
> On 11/03/2014 4:30 AM, silverdr@wfmh.org.pl wrote:
> > When trying to deal with some 4168 XRAM chips, I couldn’t get them to work properly. After  
> studying the datasheet I found in the notes:
> >
> > http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58002657/4168_notes.jpg
> >
> > Point [2.] seems important to me but I seem to have problems interpreting it unambiguously..  
> or for some other reasons these RAMs still don’t want to work..
> >
> > “An initial pause of 2ms is required after power up, followed by any 8 _CE cycles and 64  
> _RFSH cycles before proper device operation is achieved. Read, write, and external  
> refresh cycles may be used as _CE dummy cycles for initialisation. The 64 refresh dummy  
> cycles can be performed before or after the 8 _CE dummy cycles. Both dummy cycles must  
> be within AC parameters. See figure 1, below."
> >
> > Figure follows as on the picture linked above. How do you understand the above? How should  
> it be interpreted? Please note that e. g. here:
> >
> > http://www.smspower.org/uploads/Development/SegaMasterSystemIIServiceManual-1715922A-1.png  
> >
> > the _RFSH is tied up to VCC..
> 
> I'm sure I've replaced these with standard SRAM (and/or vice-versa).
> When you say they don't work, what are you trying to get them to work in
> and in what way don't they work?

Some time around the middle of last year I had an idea of doing exactly what you wrote. I wanted to put XRAM in place of SRAM onto my DD2 and DD3 boards because I have a good bunch of those 4168 XRAM chips that lie unused (taken off a working industrial equipment during scrapping). But they don’t work in the sense that the system hangs when I put the XRAM chip. I tried doing the same as on the RAMBOard, i.e. connecting _RFSH to PHI2 and adding one more cap for delaying the _OE/_CE lines. I even connected CS to PHI2 as in the RAMBOard schematic (just to be sure) but it still didn’t help. After scratching my head for a long time I eventually found the note in the data sheet that made me suspicious whether I shouldn’t be doing something extra to make them work..

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