Re: 7712 info

From: Francesco Messineo <francesco.messineo_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:57:10 +0200
Message-ID: <CAESs-_ytcOa8BDqTJmArbiqQz44TeBC5aJ3OSiNzFv93nV4MZQ_at_mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:49 AM Gerrit Heitsch
<gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de> wrote:
>
> On 6/19/20 11:23 AM, Clockmeister wrote:
> >

> >
> > C64 DRAM has a high failure rate but that's true of DRAM generally in
> > all my vintage equipment these days it seems (yes some brands fare much
> > worse like mT).  I rarely had to replace was the 77xx logic on any
> > Commodore computers though, I would say about the same rate as for other
> > systems that used 74XX logic.
>
> I had a lot more dead 7708 (74LS257), 7709 (74LS258) and 7707 (7406)
> than their 74xx equivalent.


another data point agreeing with my experience :)

>
> > It is however my opinion that power supply ripple, not only over voltage
> > is quite capable of damaging IC's in the long term including DRAM and C=
> > supplies were notoriously rubbish back in the day and haven't gotten any
> > better with age.
>
> A 78S05 (as used in the C= supplies) doesn't produce much ripple though,
> at least as long as the large capacitor in front of it is still within
> spec. You get a lot more from any switching regulator.

That's what I've found too (as I was expecting) when I replaced a
linear regulator inside a C64 power supply
with my own switching design:

https://youtu.be/oxxZgwm8lIs?t=880

I don't think the added ripple is an issue though. I'm using the DC-DC
switchers on my C64 since a few years now.

Frank
Received on 2020-06-19 12:01:59

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