Re: Re: Re: D9090 back to life !

From: William Levak <wlevak_at_SDF.ORG>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 01:42:06 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1402020130430.26523@sdf.lonestar.org>
I have looked at the schematics.  All the grounds are connected to the 
power supply ground.  You should also check that the case and the frame of 
the drive mechanism are grounded. On the circuit boards, one of the 
mounting screws is usually connected to a ground pad.  If the frame of the 
drive mechanish is fastened to the case with metal screws, this ususlly is 
a good enough ground, if the screws are tight.


On Sat, 1 Feb 2014, hwarin@neuf.fr wrote:

> Hi, William
>
> Thanks for this answer. In the perticular case of my D9090, both copper leafs seems to be designed to make an efficient (and also quite esthetic) shield, but they're connected to nothing. May be something was changed in past lives of my D9090 on some non essential elements (metalic spacers replaced my nylon ones, shield wires). Would you recommand me to ground those copper leafs ?
>
> Starting from power supply point, whole elements (DOS + SASI/ST506 Controler + HDD) seems to be connected to same grounding point (remains to be confirmed by double check anyway).
>
> @Other owners of D9060/9090 around there reading this : Do you have precision on those shields in your HDDs ? [present/absent and, if present, grounded or not ?]
>
> Hervé
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> Rf signals are generated by various components on the boards. The
> interfering signal is not uniform. Moving the boards relative to each
> other may move the interference source far enough from the sensitive part
> of the circuit.
>
> Also, the interfering signal is not only on the high side of the circuit,
> but also on the ground side. Connecting the grounds together may damp out
> part of the interfering signal.
>
> The ultimate fix for interfering signals is to put a conductive shield
> between the source of interference and the sensitive circuit. This is
> usually connected to ground. It could also be connected to a constant DC
> voltage, but this has other problems.
>
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> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, hwarin@neuf.fr wrote:
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>> I'm eventually suspecting this also .... they are 2 big copper leafs, one under HDD's PCB, and one under DOS board ... one side of each leaf, touching the PCB is isolated, but none appears to be grounded on any point. As I also had to extend fixations of SASI board, may be did I missed something on chassis grounding for this board ... Does anyone have an idea on this perticular point ?
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>> I had the same symptoms with the other,nearly identical, ST225; may be are they more sensible ? In all cases, this does not explain why RF interference could be present in 1 position and absent when the entire system is rotated 90° clockwise
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>> Message du : 27/01/2014 19:14
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>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, hwarin@neuf.fr wrote:
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>>> Don't ask why, it operates well only when placed on it's right side ! (seen
>> from ST225 manual, it's forbiden to use it from it's back .. and it's
>> the exact position choosen by commodore)
>>
>> If it's not the bearings or the head stepper mechanism, it could be rf
>> interference between the drive controller board and the main controller
>> board. I've seen some IBM drives that would only work in certain
>> positions because of rf interference. Try unmounting the drive and moving
>> it as far away from the rest of the unit as possible. If it works that
>> way, it's rf interference.
>>
>> Try adding a ground strap between the two boards.
>>
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