Re: Got IEC code working

From: Jim Brain (brain_at_jbrain.com)
Date: 2004-05-27 09:31:26

>I see, you would prefer to have clean layers in the protocol.  Instead of
>escaping of 00 payload bytes, you would like to escape 00 bytes also in the
>parameters of commands.  I don't know what you would achieve with that.
>Of course, there must be a resynchronization mechanism, in case of
>intermittent communications failure.  I'm using the BREAK condition as a
>signal to reset the microcontroller to idle state.
>  
>
If the system gets too far out of whack, command data could get 
misinterpreted as a command code (in your example, 00 LISTEN 00 00 00 00 
FF (32 bits) coudl get mangled into 00 LISTEN 00 00 00 00 CMD_FF 
(whatever this is).  At least with escaped command data, sync issues are 
less of an issue.  Minor nit.

>I didn't consider that, because I have the feeling that the serial bus is
>slower than the 38400 bps line.  Most executable programs for the
>Commodore 64 have been compressed, and there are no long sequences of zero
>bytes.  I picked zero as the escape byte, because testing against zero is
>easy on the AVR.  Testing against some other constant requires that the
>value is loaded to one of the registers 16..31.
>  
>
True, but I tried FF, and I got into issues where the system might get 
off a byte (bad code), and then it gets worse.  FF FE or F2 02 or 
something worked much better.  I know 00 is easy, but 00 just shows up 
so much, In some files, it could double the size of the file.

>I would like to make it possible to upgrade existing C2N232 units, and to
>save trouble in circuit board design.  You're right, there's no need to
>stick to a smaller controller.  But I like challenges, and I'm not yet
>hitting the limits of the 2313 too hard.  (Are you familiar of Levente
>Hársfalvi's RS-232 to 1351 mouse adapter done with a PIC?  That's a real
>challenge.)
>  
>
Well, I think some standardization on protocol might be useful.

>10 years ago, I was dreaming of something similar: a programmable device
>for the serial bus.  Currently available microcontrollers are making the
>dream possible at an affordable cost.
>  
>
As was I, but I dind;t have the tools or the expertise to do it.  Now, I 
have both.

>>I could try.  I was waiting a bit until I put the JDos routines in 
>>before I laid out the diagram in a package,  to make sure I actually 
>>capture all of the relevant states.
>>    
>>
>
>It'd be good to draw one diagram without JDos and another including it.
>  
>
That was the plan, but have them as overlays.

>What does ?ST say after such a failed LOAD attempt?
>  
>
66 (with my code, not sure on base 64)

>I don't think that there is EOI handshake for bytes sent under ATN.
>I concluded this after reading the VIC-20 KERNAL routines.  Come to
>think of it, EOI handshaking for ATN would make things very complicated
>when you're talking to multiple devices.  And there is no EOI handshaking
>for the first ATN byte, is there?
>  
>
I am getting the impression that EOI is never used when ATN low.

As stated in another email, I have server code running.  save 
"/home/brain/incoming/stuff",13 is working

Load needs a bit more thought.  It works now (I have a hardcoded app 
stored on the AVR for testing), but I need some commands to send to the 
AVR to tell it to wait for data, or not to bother, because file cannot 
be found.

JIm

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Jim Brain, Brain Innovations
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