Re: C64 Cost-reduction Prototype? ASSY 250458/PCB 252101 REV.1

From: Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 07:29:49 +0200
Message-ID: <f812a3df-fa35-4361-993f-909197b0fad7_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
On 8/26/26 06:42, Alexander Jacocks wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I've had this C64 for a few years, and it would need some attention to 
> be functional, but it was immediately obvious to me that it wasn't a 
> normal machine because it has a flat-flex keyboard cable. Then, when I 
> looked closer, most of the chips are normal, but:
> 
> 1) The ROM is an EPROM, and appears to be a combo basic/kernal
> 2) The IC in U6 is purple ceramic, and clearly has a hand-stamped label, 
> "240431", which doesn't match anything that I am aware of. Based on 
> location, it's a 6510 of some variety, but maybe a test production run 
> of the 8500?
> 3) There are extra wires on the keyboard itself (which is a Mitsumi 
> membrane)
> 4) The board has a SuperPLA, 251715-1
> 5) The RAM is 2 64k x 4 HM50464-15 chips like the 250266 and 250469
> 
> I'm sure that there are other oddities. I've shared a quick album of 
> photos here:
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1f5BydzFLHLGD <https:// 
> www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1f5BydzFLHLGD>
> 
> I've not attempted to power up the machine and would need to at least 
> dump the ROM first.
> 
> Any thoughts/comments are welcome.

That looks like an early version of what would become the 250469 board. 
Some ICs are in a different position or orientation, but the general 
layout is there, including the 251715-01 PLA. The contents of the EPROM 
should be identical to the 251913-01 ROM which is pincompatible with a 
27128 EPROM. That IC with the 240431 number is probably the 8500 CPU. 
The 8500 also appeared on some 250425 boards.

Also, a photo of the full board would be nice. The only one that comes 
close is fuzzy.

  Gerrit
Received on 2026-08-26 07:00:01

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