Re: DMA'ing in Commodore 64 for developing purposes.

From: tokafondo <tokafondo_at_tokafondo.name>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 17:08:51 +0100
Message-ID: <629cd1c7-a14a-1a58-8072-c7c1f240a8cd_at_tokafondo.name>
El 15/06/2022 a las 16:58, groepaz_at_gmx.net escribió:
> Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022, 13:25:34 CEST schrieb tokafondo:
>> Can't tell if this has been talked about previously.
>>
>> I was thinking if a system could be created to freeze a Commodore 64 and
>> DMA'ing code/data at desired memory locations and then unfreeze it, so it
>> could be tested in the real machine in real time.
>>
>> People tend to program by using emulators and once it's working there, burn
>> to an easyflash or save to a whatever disk or tape file and then run in the
>> machine,
> 
> It has been done and can be done - but ofcourse has many limitations which at
> the end doesnt actually make it as useful as using an emulator. The biggest
> problem is that you can not "stop" any of the I/O chips, so what you will get
> is basically a fancy single step emulator.
> 
> Something that i'd sometimes wanted was hardware breakpoints... ie some little
> hw that sits on the bus and listens for some address and r/w and then stops
> the machine at a defined time (or perhaps even issue a NMI)
> 
>> many times finding mostly with VIC-II dark magic that what worked
>> beautifully in the emulator doesn't do it in the real machine.
> 
> That btw i'd call a myth these days :) Emulators have become crazy accurate -
> very seldomly you stumble about some discrepancy.

Sometime ago Ms Sarah Jane Avory told about having that issue while coding one of its games. Something that worked in the emulator but not in the real thing. But as you say, it's a case in a million.

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OT: On another hand, I'm having some issues while trying to use VICE console, BTW... Where to ask?

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