Re: Attempting to ID an odd C-64 c (?) motherboard

From: Bill Degnan <billdegnan_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 14:17:20 -0500
Message-ID: <CABGJBue7dYJ5vVtr+nqFEg6W2pdM5PZTJR09ABpKNRWx2awPUQ_at_mail.gmail.com>
I posted a synopsis mirror of this thread on my web site, here:
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=779
Please advise any corrections/revisions/removal requests.
Thanks
Bill

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 1:46 PM Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
wrote:

> On 3/8/21 7:21 PM, Mario Kienspergher wrote:
> >
> > Am 08.03.21 um 18:39 schrieb Jim Brain:
> >> On 3/8/2021 11:29 AM, Bill Degnan wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I have a strange C64C (I believe) motherboard with:
> >>>
> >>> PCB ASSY NO.250451
> >>> PCB No. 251915 Rev.2
> >>>
> >>> ...printed on it.  I don't see this board documented in the normal
> >>> places and the PCB does not come up in a search, any ideas? The
> >>> VIC-II is missing.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64C_250451/250451_251915_pic1.jpg
> >>> <
> https://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64C_250451/250451_251915_pic1.jpg>
>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Bill Degnan
> >>>
> >> That's an odd one.  Like a CR board, but with 8 DRAMs, though not ina
> >> 2x4 config like on the 466 board.
> >>
> > Indeed, looks like they were testing it but trashing it because of
> > problems, as the 250466 came much later with a NMOS VIC and old glue
> logic.
> >
> > IC-stampings are from mid/late '84. Maybe the HMOS-II-Version of the VIC
> > did not perform very well or the yield was too poor, or known problems
> > with other HMOS ICs (7501, 7360) forced postponing.
>
> They did use the 8500 on 250425 boards. Problems with VIC are possible,
> after all when the HMOS-II version came out, it was R2.
>
> And you can see on the right side that there is a space for a regulator
> (VR1), so the board might have been able to use an NMOS VIC.
>
>   Gerrit
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Received on 2021-03-08 21:00:02

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