Re: Attempting to ID an odd C-64 c (?) motherboard

From: Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:39:25 +0100
Message-ID: <6a0aadd6-2598-bbf5-fdf7-bdb94413ed10_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
On 3/8/21 7:21 PM, Mario Kienspergher wrote:
> 
> Am 08.03.21 um 18:39 schrieb Jim Brain:
>> On 3/8/2021 11:29 AM, Bill Degnan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I have a strange C64C (I believe) motherboard with:
>>>
>>> PCB ASSY NO.250451
>>> PCB No. 251915 Rev.2
>>>
>>> ...printed on it.  I don't see this board documented in the normal 
>>> places and the PCB does not come up in a search, any ideas? The 
>>> VIC-II is missing.
>>>
>>> https://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64C_250451/250451_251915_pic1.jpg 
>>> <https://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64C_250451/250451_251915_pic1.jpg> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Bill Degnan
>>>
>> That's an odd one.  Like a CR board, but with 8 DRAMs, though not ina 
>> 2x4 config like on the 466 board.
>>
> Indeed, looks like they were testing it but trashing it because of 
> problems, as the 250466 came much later with a NMOS VIC and old glue logic.
> 
> IC-stampings are from mid/late '84. Maybe the HMOS-II-Version of the VIC 
> did not perform very well or the yield was too poor, or known problems 
> with other HMOS ICs (7501, 7360) forced postponing.

They did use the 8500 on 250425 boards. Problems with VIC are possible, 
after all when the HMOS-II version came out, it was R2.

And you can see on the right side that there is a space for a regulator 
(VR1), so the board might have been able to use an NMOS VIC.

  Gerrit
Received on 2021-03-08 20:04:06

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