Re: CMD HD mechanism failure?

From: Justin <shadow_at_darksideresearch.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:05:51 -0600
It can mimic drive identifiers when you need to use it in something that really cares but yeah, it is otherwise pretty simple.  Normally you can use adapters to convert between 50 and 68 pin etc.  Almost everything should negotiate down to crappy older scsi. I don’t really get the not buying the newer one concept. If it costs less and will perform better if you use it in something else in the future, why would you want the slower earlier more expensive revision?

Justin

> On Feb 4, 2021, at 13:16, Raj Wurttemberg <rajaw_at_c64.us> wrote:
> 
> Hey Terry,
>  
> I have the 5.2 SCSI2SD in my HD-100 and it works perfectly. You do not need to cut any of the power connectors.  You will just need a short molex to 4-pin floppy connector… you probably have a pile already. :)   Here is what it looks like:
>  
> From Amazon…
> https://www.amazon.com/Kentek-Floppy-Internal-Computer-Adapter/dp/B07KS5NHTC/ref=sr_1_3 <https://www.amazon.com/Kentek-Floppy-Internal-Computer-Adapter/dp/B07KS5NHTC/ref=sr_1_3>
>  
> or from NewEgg…
> https://www.newegg.com/p/284-004W-000F7 <https://www.newegg.com/p/284-004W-000F7>
>  
> I didn’t need to adjust anything on the 5.2 SCSI2SD except set the max size to 4GB (I only had 16GB SD card laying around). The Windows software to adjust the SCSI2D is here:
>  
> http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/windows/64bit/ <http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/windows/64bit/>
>  
> Here is the main download link:
>  
> http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/ <http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/>
>  
> I left everything at default on my SCSI2DC. The firmware on the SCSI2SD can be updated but mine came with the latest (v4.8.04).
>  
> /Raj
>  
> From: Terry Raymond <traymond160_at_gmail.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:38 PM
> To: cbm-hackers_at_musoftware.de
> Subject: Re: CMD HD mechanism failure?
>  
> Hi Raj and all,
>  
> I finally hear back from the owner of the scsi to sd  he said the V6 is a little too fast for slower hardware so he recommended the
> V5.  With the CMD HD's external power source I would only need maybe just the 5VDC only.
> Was the 12VDC only needed for the actual mechanical mechanisms motor only?
> If so I would just of course need to cut the 12VDC wire since that is no longer needed, Im referring to the small
> wire with the larger connector (for hard drives) well and a ground wire is needed for that too I suppose. :)
>  
>  With the scsi to sd board does this come with seperate software for adjusting certain settings etc and is that then flashed into
> the firmware?  Can the firmware on this board be updated etc?
> Mainly for the CMD HD though only uses Dev0 and Lun0  so will this firmware let you select this scsi ID number
> since because the CMD HD only uses zero, otherwise other numbers will just create SCSI errors.
>  
>   So again Im awaiting an answer from this guy, as far as the power requirements, and how to configure the
> scsi. If I understand the info on this it appears its a PC app that you select all of the scsi settings to use with different types
> of scsi, or is this just limited to 50 pin scsi, it looks like only 50 pin to me.
>  
> Anyway thanks guys once I hear from this guy I will try the V5 one is what this guy reccomended for slower drives, but
> will the V6 compensate for Jiffy Dos and a Super CPU. :-)  If so maybe hes wrong and I pointed that out to him about Jiffy Dos and the
> Super CPU helping, but I would want it to still work at 1mhz though, but this was just something I was curious about.
>  
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>  
> Terry 


--Apple-Mail=_27D93022-F2DC-4461-A840-9EC8459F3EC1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset=utf-8

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It can mimic drive identifiers when you need to use it in something that really cares but yeah, it is otherwise pretty simple. &nbsp;Normally you can use adapters to convert between 50 and 68 pin etc. &nbsp;Almost everything should negotiate down to crappy older scsi. I don’t really get the not buying the newer one concept. If it costs less and will perform better if you use it in something else in the future, why would you want the slower earlier more expensive revision?<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div>Justin</div>

</div>
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 4, 2021, at 13:16, Raj Wurttemberg &lt;<a href="mailto:rajaw_at_c64.us" class="">rajaw_at_c64.us</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hey Terry,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have the 5.2 SCSI2SD in my HD-100 and it works perfectly. You do not need to cut any of the power connectors.&nbsp; You will just need a short molex to 4-pin floppy connector… you probably have a pile already. :)&nbsp;&nbsp; Here is what it looks like:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From Amazon…<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kentek-Floppy-Internal-Computer-Adapter/dp/B07KS5NHTC/ref=sr_1_3" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.amazon.com/Kentek-Floppy-Internal-Computer-Adapter/dp/B07KS5NHTC/ref=sr_1_3</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">or from NewEgg…<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.newegg.com/p/284-004W-000F7" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.newegg.com/p/284-004W-000F7</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I didn’t need to adjust anything on the 5.2 SCSI2SD except set the max size to 4GB (I only had 16GB SD card laying around). The Windows software to adjust the SCSI2D is here:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/windows/64bit/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/windows/64bit/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Here is the main download link:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.codesrc.com/files/scsi2sd/latest/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I left everything at default on my SCSI2DC. The firmware on the SCSI2SD can be updated but mine came with the latest (v4.8.04).<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">/Raj<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Terry Raymond &lt;<a href="mailto:traymond160_at_gmail.com" class="">traymond160@gmail.com</a>&gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, February 4, 2021 1:38 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" class="">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: CMD HD mechanism failure?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Raj and all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I finally hear back from the owner of the scsi to sd&nbsp; he said the V6 is a little too fast for slower hardware so he recommended the<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">V5.&nbsp; With the CMD HD's external power source I would only need maybe just the 5VDC only.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Was the 12VDC only needed for the actual mechanical mechanisms motor only?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If so I would just of course need to cut the 12VDC wire since that is no longer needed, Im referring to the small<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">wire with the larger connector (for hard drives) well and a ground wire is needed for that too I suppose. :)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">&nbsp;With the scsi to sd board does this come with seperate software for adjusting certain settings etc and is that then flashed into<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">the firmware?&nbsp; Can the firmware on this board be updated etc?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mainly for the CMD HD though only uses Dev0 and Lun0&nbsp; so will this firmware let you select this scsi ID number<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">since because the CMD HD only uses zero, otherwise other numbers will just create SCSI errors.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">&nbsp; So again Im awaiting an answer from this guy, as far as the power requirements, and how to configure the<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">scsi. If I understand the info on this it appears its a PC app that you select all of the scsi settings to use with different types<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">of scsi, or is this just limited to 50 pin scsi, it looks like only 50 pin to me.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Anyway thanks guys once I hear from this guy I will try the V5 one is what this guy reccomended for slower drives, but<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">will the V6 compensate for Jiffy Dos and a Super CPU. :-)&nbsp; If so maybe hes wrong and I pointed that out to him about Jiffy Dos and the<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Super CPU helping, but I would want it to still work at 1mhz though, but this was just something I was curious about.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for your suggestions.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class="">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 5.25pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Terry&nbsp;</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>
--Apple-Mail=_27D93022-F2DC-4461-A840-9EC8459F3EC1--
Received on 2021-02-04 22:00:22

Archive generated by hypermail 2.3.0.