Re: VICE real cart support

From: Scott Hutter <scott.hutter_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:50:27 -0500
Message-ID: <CAAk6Rxc1KDoP1kM0qhRL02i+yf9wcCFOzU+aUPgoPrMsm8sN4A_at_mail.gmail.com>
yeah, i was curious about rather unusual devices such as the BI-80, a BBU /
REU combo, or even a turbo chameleon.  Just wanted to see how far the
emulation could take it.  We know that with a zoomfloppy its possible to
talk to real IEC devices, so was just thinking of the cartridge port also.
Additionally, was thinking of a real userport connection being routed into
VICE.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM <groepaz_at_gmx.net> wrote:

> Yes, sure, simple things will work - but indeed, what's the point then,
> all of
> them have (or can be) dumped.
>
> Am Montag, 28. September 2020, 16:59:30 CEST schrieb David Roberts:
> > It depends what is in the C64 cartridge.
> >
> > http://blog.worldofjani.com/?p=879
> >
> > For example, if the contents of the C64 cartridge is just ROM, static RAM
> > or ROM+ static RAM then using VICE with a dedicated interface port should
> > work fine in my opinion - albeit the speed will be dictated by the hist
> > computer upon which VICE is running. In my experience, this may be faster
> > than a real C64 (under defined conditions of course).
> >
> > If the cartridge contains bespoke hardware that is timing critical, then
> I
> > agree that this solution will be destined to fail. But it would be
> > interesting to find out how many cartridges this would (in fact)
> preclude...
> >
> > One question does remain however, if the cartridge ROM is available - and
> > could be read for use with VICE, and the plan is to use VICE fir the
> > emulation and user interface, I can’t actually see what benefit you would
> > get from the proposed solution.
> >
> > Just trying to think through the use case.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 14:14, <groepaz_at_gmx.net> wrote:
> > > Am Montag, 28. September 2020, 13:11:52 CEST schrieb Scott Hutter:
> > > > I was wondering if it would be possible to interface a real C64
> > > > cartridge port to VICE.  Certainly there would need to be a custom
> > > > built interface to make the connections and handle the signal lines.
> > > > Feasible?  Or would VICE be too slow for the proper timing?
> > >
> > > this will never work, except with dedicated hardware - ie your own
> > > complete
> > > computer - that can guarantee the right timing in all circumstances.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://hitmen.eu                 http://ar.pokefinder.org
> > > http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net  http://magicdisk.untergrund.net
> > >
> > > Fortschritt ist wie eine Horde Schweine. Beides hat viel Gutes, aber
> man
> > > darf
> > > sich nicht wundern, dass alles voller Scheisse ist.
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> http://hitmen.eu                 http://ar.pokefinder.org
> http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net  http://magicdisk.untergrund.net
>
> Wer nie sein Brot im Bette aß,weiß nicht wie Krümel pieken !
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