Re: a CIA riddle - please run these tests

From: groepaz_at_gmx.net
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:48:37 +0200
Message-ID: <1863258.DIVbhacDa7_at_rakete>
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2020, 14:41:50 CEST schrieb Gerrit Heitsch:
> On 6/19/20 2:32 PM, groepaz_at_gmx.net wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2020, 14:19:53 CEST schrieb Gerrit Heitsch:
> >> On 6/19/20 1:43 PM, silverdr_at_wfmh.org.pl wrote:
> >>>> On 2020-06-19, at 13:04, groepaz_at_gmx.net wrote:
> >>>>>> Since you consistently use singular above, which CIA position
> >>>>>> matters?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The tests in the zip use CIA1 to prevent any interference with the IEC
> >>>>> bus
> >>>>> (which shouldnt be a problem, but who knows). In a C128 thats U1,
> >>>>> afaik.
> >>>>
> >>>> i attached another zip on the ticket at sourceforge, which contains the
> >>>> tests for CIA2 - so you can run both if you have different ones in the
> >>>> machine.>
> >>>
> >>> I took the one from:
> >>>    https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/bugs/_discuss/thread/
> >>>
> >>> 538e31942f/ba33/attachment/cia-shiftregister-tests.zip
> >>>
> >>> There's discrepancy on the naming between readme and files:
> >>>
> >>> ... Now run the "delay2-new" and "delay-old" ...
> >>>
> >>> there's "delay2-old. But..
> >>>
> >>> Both CIAs are marked 1386 (I expect it to be "new")
> >>
> >> No, datecode 1386 is still an NMOS CIA and therefore an old one. The
> >> switchover came at the end of 1986 on the 250466 boards. Datecode 4x86
> >> is likely to be new.
> >
> > Thats what makes the whole thing really really weird - 4485 is before the
> > switch. Meanwhile we got a few more reports, and can probably also be sure
> > that testing on C128 vs C64 isnt the cause of the difference either (which
> > would be weird as well).
> >
> > So if anyone has CIAs with timestamp of 4485, or very close to that,
> > please
> > join the testing :)
>
> Maybe MOS had a bad batch at around that time and the usual tests didn't
> catch the problem? The only way to be sure is to have one of the
> problematic ones decapped and see what's written on the Die. If it's
> still a 6526R4...

AndroSID decapped a 4485 a while ago, and that one was a 6526R4 indeed


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