Re: 7501/8501 Processors (was RE: 6510 and 8500 differences)

From: William Levak (wlevak_at_cyberspace.org)
Date: 2000-08-03 06:28:26

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Nicolas Welte wrote:

> > [COPLIN, Nicholas.]  I would have to agree that the 7501/8501 would have to
> > be to most failure prone semi-conductor ever made. 2/3 of my Plus4 machines
> > are toast and the remaining one works for all of 5mins before it
> > "overheats", whilst the 3/3 of my C16's seem to work!
> > 
> > Is the problem model specific? Does anyone know of any fixes to help prolong
> > their life (Heat sinks? cooling fan?)
> 
> A heat sink is always a good idea, but I don't think overheating is the
> main problem for that CPU. I think it is the same reason why the CIA died
> so often in the old C64: the serial bus. On newer C64 and all C128 it is
> protected by diodes, and I rarely see a CIA die on them. The service
> manuals on funet describe how to add those diodes (at least four, sometimes
> six) to the old C64, C16 and Plus/4, and I also did it to my C116. 

I only have 2 Plus/4's but they have similar problems.  They both have
the diodes.  I suspect the voltage regulators or timing cricuitry, but I
have not had the time to test them thoroughly.

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