Re: ...thoughts on Retro-uC?

From: Francesco Messineo <francesco.messineo_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:07:54 +0200
Message-ID: <CAESs-_xbokF20cWbxYCMr61ED7no_+Pim+Rp5VWjvK5qiOqUUg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:50 AM Konrad B <konrad0x42@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, fast 65c02 or maybe ce02 or c816 based MCUs with internal Flash
> and RAM (and not these Mitsubishi MELPs devices, which you could only
> buy in zillions and had 100 Flash rewrites guaranteed or so) were
> something I dreamt about... last century ;)
>
> Now if we talk about 6530/6560-61/6581 and all these fancy CSG/MOS
> chips - some time ago we learned about documents and backup tapes
> being found in the abandoned GMT/MOS HQ. One gentelmen kindly
> explained us that "there were no tape drives there so the tapes are
> trash", but this is still something that concerns me - does anyone
> know if all of these things (tapes, docs) were put in garbage bin ?

I refuse to believe there's no way to read those tapes. There're a few
folks on vcfed.org forum that can surely find a way to read anything,
it's just a matter of speaking with the right persons, imho.
The problem is probably there's no chip farm with the right process
active to reproduce the old designs. I was always curious about how
would it costs to re-activate such an old process and start making
these chips again.
Also, on the purely digital chips, one would just need a bonding
machine to rewire a "modern logic implementation" to a compatible DIP
chip package.
The mixed analog/digital chips on the other hand would need to be
recreated with the old manufacturing process (SID, VIC and few
others).
I doubt however that there's enough market even to justify the
"rebonding logic" approach which should be far cheaper than setting up
a complete chip farm.
Frank
>
> Regards,
> Konrad
> śr., 12 wrz 2018 o 22:10 didier derny <didier@aida.org> napisał(a):
> >
> > for me it would be like  a sheep with 5 legs...
> >
> > if  I want a 6502 / z80  or 68000 I take a real one....
> >
> > if I want something modern I take an avr, or an arm....
> >
> >
> > I would find replacement for:  6530 /  6560 / 6561 / 6581.... more
> > interesting...
> >
> >
> > On 9/12/2018 7:15 AM, Daniel O'Shea wrote:
> > > Not sure they are going to meet their funding target, but I have to
> > > admit it is an interesting proposition - custom ASIC that can act as a
> > > Z80 or a 6502 or a 68000!
> > >
> > > https://www.crowdsupply.com/chips4makers/retro-uc
> > >
> >
>
Received on 2018-09-13 11:00:06

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