Den Fri, 11 May 2018 08:40:40 -0500 skrev Jim Brain <brain@jbrain.com>: > On 5/11/2018 7:25 AM, Mia Magnusson wrote: > > > > Yes, I see what you mean. But does this eco system really stretch > > that far outside the US? > I don't know about the ecosystem, but I (and my son and daughter, who > help pack the orders for income) are continually surprised at the non > US order destinations. I should run a report, but it seems like it's > evenly split, if I take US/Canada versus non US/Canada. Interesting! > > Yeah, that is really shitty of them. I see two more or less valid > > reasons for them to not hang out, either if they are super shy or if > > they are super introvert. Also there might be a language barrier. In > > general people in Sweden, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands are > > really good at english even though it's not their native language. > > But for many other parts of the world english is harder, especially > > among older people (who grew up with Commodore stuff). > Not to over generalize, but computer folks trend to the introverted > side anyway, and selling something demands a certain amount of > communication, I would think. Some are introvert AFK but extrovert online :) > The language issue is much more valid, but it would be trivial for > them to reach out to Nate or Spiro and state (in some translated > language via Google's translate function: "I'm selling an xum1541 and > have a <insert language here> forum/list/etc. I'd appreciate it if > folks would know". I'm not so naive to think English is universal, > and even if the discussion does not directly benefit me, it would > show they are helping the community. Forum64 is a great example. > Lots of great technical stuff going on over there, and I drop in from > time to time, using translate to see what is up. > > If nothing else, they are missing a great opportunity to get their > product name out, since someone earlier noted that Nate's web site > only lists me as a source. Yes, that's totally true. To be honest, I haven't really investigated how the process probably has been for a typical generic XUM1541 seller. Like did they find all stuff on Github or similar and never really saw anything else than the source? Or did they read lots of threads here and there? > > It's really uncommon to buy a new house here, those are mostly > > bought second hand or they buy a lot and get a building permit and > > get involved somehow themself. > Oh, don't believe the media. Most of the US does the same. I've > lived in 5 houses, and not a single one was new (gently used :-) > > I will concede my examples were horrid, :) > but my point was that at some point, cost savings no longer dominate > the discussion. Agreed. > > My conclusion is that it would be really really nice if the US > > vintage computer companies and their counterparts in central > > mainland Europe would team up to manufacture and sell each others > > products. Or maybe ship them to each other with the slowest low > > cost shipping. (I've read from your web shop that there is some > > kind of special deal in getting blank PCB's so the rom-eprom > > adaptors might be feasable to buy from you anyways, but most other > > stuff gets expensive when shipping is included). > This, I completely agree with. I have reached out to a few companies > to come up with a plan, and the ball is in my court. > > I will concede shipping is a beast, and then there's lots of > customers who complain to me about VAT/GST/etc. Yeah, if you would partner with someone in Europe I suggest following how the Brexit goes. Currently there is no extra VAT if you sell within the EU (and afaik a few of the "hangaround" countries like Switzerland and Norway) but if you mostly sell to a specific country you have to pay VAT in that country (or that countrys VAT level) instead of locally where you have your company. -- (\_/) Copy the bunny to your mails to help (O.o) him achieve world domination. (> <) Come join the dark side. /_|_\ We have cookies.Received on 2018-05-11 18:01:03
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