Re: Unknown holes in the motherboard of the CBM610

From: Steve Gray <sjgray_at_rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:50:37 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <301119581.1173353.1524754237213@mail.yahoo.com>
Ruud,
I have another for you, which is related. The "Alternate OS" board:http://www.6502.org/users/sjgray/computer/cbm2/ace-os.jpg

This is an advertisement for it and other products including the 1024K board. The 1024K board mounts on the Low Profile machines (610, B128 etc) only. It plugs directly into the expansion sockets and it provides two pass-thru header connections for the Alternate OS board. The pass-thru connectors are spaced exactly like the LP motherboard connectors but are offset towards the back of the machine so that the Alternate OS board mounts on top in such a way that it does not interfere with the internal LP keyboard.
I have not seen a picture of the Alternate OS board, so I don't know if there are any remaining specimens out there. I don't know if Gary Anderson is still around to provide more info. I only know of 2 owners of 1024K boards and I assume that not many of them were made, so I'm not sure you really need to worry about being compatible with them.
My personal feeling is if you're re-making the CBM-II motherboard then you should be able to do 1024K directly on the new motherboard, and maybe even duplicate the Alternate OS board simply by making the ROM sizes bigger and adding a switch (or circuit) to control the upper address line(s).
Steve


      From: "Baltissen, GJPAA (Ruud)" <ruud.baltissen@apg.nl>
 To: "'cbm-hackers@musoftware.de'" <cbm-hackers@musoftware.de> 
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:21 AM
 Subject: RE: Unknown holes in the motherboard of the CBM610
   
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