Re: Handic VIC-Switch

From: Mia Magnusson <mia_at_plea.se>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:47:37 +0100
Message-ID: <20171102204737.00006bd5@plea.se>
Den Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:49:34 -0500 skrev Jim Brain <brain@jbrain.com>:
> On 11/2/2017 9:52 AM, Mia Magnusson wrote:
> >
> > Is there really more than sending 8 clock pulses and drive the data
> > line? Of course with the correct polarity of all stuff e.t.c.
> It's less a about when to send the $ff. and more about when *NOT* to.
> 
> And, sending the $ff is trivial.  It's watching for the $ff indicator
> on the computer side * 8 ports at the correct time, and then ignoring
> other $ff signals at any other time.
> 
> Again, it's not insurmountable, but you either need to build 8 sets
> of TTL logic to correctly watch for the indicator on the 8 incoming
> ports (and ignore any other time), you need to use a microntroller
> that can watch the 8 CLK lines at the correct time, or you need to
> implement the functionality in a PAL/GAL/CPLD.  I found that a 16MHz
> uC could not satisfactorily watch the CLK lines for activity, and I
> had no desire to bulk up on TTL in the board, so I decided to learn
> Verilog so I could implement the required functionality.

How big/small is the risk of a computer sending something else before
pulling ATN? If I understand correctly there shouldn't be anything
sent. Therefore we might get away with just detecting something similar
to this activity.

Although a discrete solution would grow to a really big card, it could
probably be detected with a serial in parallel out shift register, an
8-input nand gate (7430 iirc), and some timing circuit that makes sure
that there isn't too much time between FF and ATN being pulled low.

AFAIK it's only C128 (and atleast in theory C64 modified to work the
same way as C128) that can do burst mode. Most users would probably
only need burst mode compatibility on one or two ports. Also most users
would probably not need all 8 ports, but limiting the number of ports
in general might nog save much.

It's rather obvious that the number 8 stems from what was easy to
achieve with standard logic IC's :)

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