RE: 264/TED/Plus4 Story

From: Bil Herd <>
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:51:24 -0400
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Thank Terry Ryan for Basic (3.5?) with a global assist from Fred Bowen and
John Cooper.  The Rom Monitor was Fred with an assist by Terry and John.  We
were told by the head of Commodore UK that we had created the perfect
machine for hacking (games) , I telexed back "Thank You".

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Gerrit Heitsch
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: 264/TED/Plus4 Story

On 08/25/2011 09:18 PM, Hársfalvi Levente wrote:
> Bil,
> All in all,
> a great number of schools were supplied with C16s and Plus/4s; one can
> instantly recognize the machines of these series, as all of them were
> equipped with localized keyboard layouts and character ROMs as a
> then-requirement for school computer candidates ( can sometimes
> find a factory produced Hungarian Kernal PROM in them, and keyboards
> that were produced to already have the Hungarian alphabet, making
> these machines the possibly single occurence of nationalized 264
> series computers; most others were regular Plus/4s just equipped with
> EPROMs and decals).

Do you remember the part numer of the hungarien kernal ROMs? The PAL Kernal
for everyone else was 318004-0x (with -05 being the last). Would make a nice
addition to my list of MOS chips.

> IMHO a fortunate
> way of how things played out, since the Plus/4 was actually really
> good in that role. We definitely liked its good display capabilities
> (...121 colors or what... ;-) ), good Basic interpreter (first),
> built-in monitor (...then), physical outfit (...ever :-) ), everything
> that made it feel to support (rather than obstruct... how common that
> was on other
> platforms) you on the way.

That's why I still like the C16 (with 64K of course). Much easier to
experiment on than the C64 since the BASIC is so much better and you get
about the same graphics capabilities as the C64 when it comes to bitmap
graphics. The hardware controlled 'flash' in text mode is another plus.


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