From: Gavilan (
Date: 2005-06-14 01:56:10

wELL...let me tell you my experience..
i happen to live in one of the 2 countries in the whole world (i guessÇ),
that use PAL-N

And when i buy a computer from europe, which i think is PAL B. for example,
from Germany, i can only see it in black & colour at all..
I use a transcoder pal-n-pal-whatever to be able to watch in full colours

Somebody told me that PAL-N is like a cheap version of original PAL...
Why my country adopted such a decision...well...yo have to go back to the
World Cup ´78....and ask technicians here and from Telefunken (the company
who brought PAL to Argentina specially for tv for the World Cup....) But
thats another story...

Just my 2 cents...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: PAL-N

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arndt Övermann" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: PAL-N
> > Am Montag, 13. Juni 2005 18:46 schrieb
> > Salve Richard,
> >
> >> I have a C64c with a 6572R1 as a VIC-II. I plugged it into a 1084 but
> >> only
> >> got a black and white picture. After googling I found out that the
> >> is PAL-N. Is there a trick to get a color picture on a standard PAL
> >> monitor? Or do I have to get a PAL-N compatible monitor or TV.
> >
> > PAL-N uses a colour carrier with 3.58 MHz. This PAL-Version is used in
> > South-America (e. g. Argentina) with the broadcast standard CCIR N.
> > VHS-Tapes, they are recorded with a PAL-N VHS-Recorder can be play back
> > a
> > PAL (Europe, Asia, Australia, New-Zealand) VHS-Recorder and vice versa
> > colour.
> > This C64, which you own, can only used Monitor or a TV-Set with PAL-N
> > standard.
>   Not completely true. You can buy a video capture card such as the ati
> in wonder" that you install into your modern pc and it will handle pal (
> many different types too) ,secam, and ntsc. I hook up my pal vic-20 and
> to the video inputs and I get an excellent color picture on my 19 inch
> monitor. Finally got to play Toki, over here in canada, on my C128!
> Leo
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